Episode 119 : The Hawkman of Regular People

William apologizes profusely! Also, we discuss memes, and hear a harrowing tale of accidental heroism. We uncover the secret truth of a superhero, and then end up with the most comfortable and safe of conversation topics — Religion!



Dear The Magical Talking Hat, Grump Cat: Loveable or overexposed? — Kiya B.

Dear Hat, Which do your prefer, the Ode to Joy, or the Hallelujah Chorus, and why? — Veremond

HEY HAT: How would you explain my prolonged absence from emailing you guys? — Veremond

Dear TMTH, What is your opinion of creationism? — Craig




Here’s the photo I was talking about, that I want to turn into a Meme.



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22 Responses to Episode 119 : The Hawkman of Regular People

  1. Bloodsparrow says:

    William the accidental hero: I think you did just tell the whole story…

    • Bloodsparrow says:

      William feeling bad all week because he didn’t enjoy his own podcast.

      I promice William, if you are not entertaining I will tell you.

      Now I don’t want you to think we enjoy you saying bad things about yourself and you should do more of that. (Tony probably does want you to think that, but that’s neither here nor there.)

      • Bloodsparrow says:

        The underlying comedy of this is that he’s trying to make up for being down on himself at the end of the last episode by being down on himself at the beginning of this one. 😀

        • Bloodsparrow says:

          So anyway. Don’t beat yourself up for week because you didn’t enjoy your own podcast, please.

          Not that I’m one to say anything on that front. I still think of things I said or did when I was 8 and want to bang my head against the wall.

    • Bloodsparrow says:

      Dates for the reading: I’ll be at Dragon*Con on the 31st.

    • Bloodsparrow says:

      Storyteller V-Log:

      You should do it even if you don’t get picked up by Geek & Sundry

    • Bloodsparrow says:

      Grumpy Cat – Firstly, it’s the Internet, the internet LOVES cats. Now Grumpy Cat has a marketing team in the people who own Tarder Sauce and Pokey. Happy Cat was a random picture of a cat photoshopped, Celing Cat was one picture of a random cat.

      Tarder Sauce (aka – Grumpy Cat) and Pokey (slightly less grumpy cat) are photographed daily by their owners (or “pet parents”) and a “Daily Grump” is released via social media. There’s a LOT of material of Tarder Sauce and Pokey coming out all the time.

      That is why Grumpy Cat is prevalent. Those other LOL cats are anonymous, Grumpy Cat has a god-damn Facebook page.

      • Bloodsparrow says:

        Tony: Don’t laugh at “Grumpy Cat Brand”. It IS a brand. A sucsessful one. There’s going to be a Grumpy Cat MOVIE!

        Grumpy Cat is the new Garfield. Who was the orrigonal grumpy cat, without the benifit of being an actual cat.

    • Bloodsparrow says:

      Ode to Joy or Hallelujah Chorus…

      I listen to both of those on a loops when I’m not listening to podcasts.

    • Bloodsparrow says:

      Back when Veramond typed an email so fast it made time go backwards, being able to send email WAS a super power!

      Just saying.

    • Bloodsparrow says:



  2. Ebomb says:

    I don’t believe it would ever occur to any self-respecting music nerd to compare for quality a Handel piece and a Beethoven piece, much less two iconic pieces written within two totally different musical structural and textual contexts, composed 83 years apart. Perhaps that’s why you guys were a little stumped by the question. Unless…you just plain prefer music of the Baroque period to that of the late Classical period, or vise versa. Or prefer ballsy composition, e.g., sticking a chorus in the final movement of a symphony (Symphony No. 9 in D minor (“the Choral”)). Or prefer religious texts (The Messiah, an Easter oratorio) to a more secular text (“Ode to Joy”, a poem about brotherly love and unity — a major tenet of the Enlightenment). BUT, to say you generally like one over the other might make you sound a little…well, parochial to someone who knows anything about music.

    Well-done, gentlemen. Well-done.

  3. jas says:

    Woot! Red Wheelbarrow shout-out for Tony! 🙂 Somehow it’s hilarious that William doesn’t know a poem by William C. Williams. And William’s reaction to Tony saying it’s a famous poem. “Good…(good for it..)” Hah!

  4. jas says:

    Ode to Joy is originally in German.

    Alle Menschen werden Brüder,
    Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.

    Somehow much more satisfying to belt out in German, even if you’re not a great singer (says I from personal experience).

  5. jas says:

    Re: Creationism/Intelligent Design. I teach at a religiously affiliated college. Whenever my students want to argue for either Creationism or Intelligent Design, I explain that one of the fundamental principals of Science is falsifiability. Treating a belief in God as something falsifiable goes against the tenents of faith. This seems to me something that both theists and atheists should be able to agree on. I know this isn’t the case unfortunately.

  6. jas says:

    So you guys essentially said the above already… 🙂

    Really good book on some of this and especially good at poking fun at the silliness on all sides: Reason, Fatith, and Revolution: Reflections on the God Debate.

  7. jas says:

    On the loveable/overexposed question–it was interesting that you both thought about context and genre. For me, if a particular meme strikes a chord it doesn’t ever seem to get old. And then others, I never see the appeal. The meme of Darth Vader as Dad I find hilarious. Grumpy Cat–never saw the appeal


  8. jas says:

    For me the crux of the theist/atheist divide doesn’t come down to the question of the existence of God but the mind/body or soul/body divide. As far as the existence of God I’d probably classify myself as an agnostic-atheist. I can’t prove there is no God, anymore than I think someone can prove there is one. As was said on the podcast, I don’t think this is a question of proof but of belief. But to me there is pretty solid proof that there is no mind or soul with separate existence from the body. Or that there is some “me” that either precedes or goes beyond my physical existence.

  9. Beth says:

    Tony: The automated phone system I often have to call sounds like this if you want to get Spanish (I already know the spelling is wrong): Por Espanol, marke dos
    (Which I take to mean: if I want to talk in Spanish, push 2).

    I agree, who can compare Ode to Joy to the Hallelujah Chorus?

  10. Mark says:

    Impressive sigh.

    That’s so William.

    New glasses: Yeah! Adjustment to new prescription, boo. That always takes me a few days and I tend to get bad headaches from eyestrain until I adapt.

    Super Sekret Project: Awwwwww.

    Geek and Sundry: Been there and voted already.

    Grumpy Cat: Meh, Grumpy Cat has nothing on sneezy cat when one is trying to work on a laptop. Eeewwwwwwww, damn it cat; not all over my laptop (again)!

    Atheism/Intelligent Design: Some of my best friends are atheists and some are church-goers; this is why I prefer not to get drawn into religious discussions. It probably doesn’t help my reluctance to get drawn into those sorts of conversations now that I’m employed at a Catholic hospital.

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