Episode 377 : Space Western

A lot of movies to cover, early on. Then some catch up on travels, video games, and health. And then possibly the strangest tangent of the “hotdog/sandwich” debate to date. Enjoy!

 

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*Pop Tarts are ravioli. Prove me wrong. –Azuretalon P.S. I’m starting a podcast about a shoe that talks.

 

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7 Responses to Episode 377 : Space Western

  1. jas says:

    I’m not sure about what Will meant when he said Han Solo is not iconic, ‘cause iconic has gotten to mean something as general as “popular” as well as having more specific meanings. I would say he is an archetypical character, though (scoundrel with a heart of gold) and is arguably more the hero of A New Hope than Luke.

    I think one thing that may be playing into the slow box office of Solo is the death of the character in Awakens.

    • I thought I said (or, at least, I intended to say) that Han isn’t as iconic as Disney thinks he is. Iconic, sure. “Darth Vader” level iconic, I don’t think so.

      Go anywhere in the world and ask people what’s the first image that pops into their heads when someone says, “Threatening villain from the movies,” and you’ll hear a significant number of them say, “Darth Vader.” That’s what makes Vader more than just an archetype… he’s a global exemplar of the archetype, an icon. Ask them what’s the first image that pops into their heads when someone says, “scoundrel with a heart of gold from the movies”, and (presuming they haven’t been primed by answering Vader to the first question) I doubt they’ll be anywhere near as likely to answer “Han Solo”. Particularly in those areas outside the US where the “lovable scoundrel” or “space cowboy” tropes aren’t as popular as in the US. Which, I think also explains why “Solo” didn’t generate much interest overseas.

      So, in their marketing, I think Disney thought just having Han Solo in the title role did much of their work for them.

      Han is popular, especially in the US. But not THAT popular.

      • jas says:

        Ah, I see. I think you did say that. I just didn’t understand, but the Darth comparison made it clear.

        I still think the fact that the character was killed off fairly recently plays into how invested a potential audience would be in their backstory.

  2. jas says:

    Tony is just going to have to try and track me down ‘cause not going to see “Get Out.” Don’t like horror movies, and too much racist horror in RL.

  3. jas says:

    Wait, aren’t pop-tarts=won-tons? Or maybe ravioli=won-tons? And pop-tarts are tortillas? Or possibly blintzes? 😉

  4. Mark says:

    TMTH Burgers: Yum!

    Solo: I had fun watching it, but… I didn’t love it and I don’t think it was all that good of a film. Jenny Nicholson did a good breakdown of why it’s bad. While I like Glover’s Lando; they didn’t give him enough screen time to develop the character like they should have.

    And I wouldn’t call Solo a “train robbery” movie; as that was only a small fraction of the film. I’ve mostly been describing the film as a heist movie set in the Star Wars universe.

    Failure of Firefly? Failure of Firefly?! Failure of Firefly?!? SIR, THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS! Firefly didn’t fail; the network airing it failed and quite deliberately so. By constantly moving the show to different time slots, they made it all but impossible to watch. I still fondly remember seeing The Train Job episode air, looking over at Michelle, and saying “We’ve got to watch more of this!” Then every time we went to watch the fun, those bastards at Fox had bumped it to another day and/or time. We never saw another episode till after the DVDs were out and Tony kindly lent them to us.

    Getting back to Solo, maybe I’m in the minority; but I’ve never considered him a “space cowboy”. *shrug* Not sure why (maybe the lack of horses?).

    Get Out: I’ll give it a shot some day when it’s on Netflix.

    High School sucking: I wasn’t bullied; being bigger than most of the kids rather turns them off that idea. But yeah, it still sucked and sucked hard, but that was partly caused by moving after my freshman year to a town the quarter of the size. I’d moved a fair bit as a kid, but that move during high school was probably the worst. Nearly none of the kids at my final high school had ever lived anywhere else; so they had already formed their cliques. They weren’t exactly unfriendly to outsiders but I never stopped feeling like an outsider there. This is why I’ve never gone back for a high school reunion. As for college reunions, I was mostly a night student and didn’t have a fun college experience that I’d be in any hurry to remember. I have , on occasion, met up with an old study group from college for a meal but that’s the limit of my “school reunions”.

    Pop-tarts vs Raviloi: While there are similarities, they are not the same. They use different types of dough (pasta vs. pastry dough). Additionally ravioli should be served in broth or with a sauce; while pop-tarts are eaten “plain”.

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