We get into some pretty cool talk about feminism tonight, so that’s cool. And then, we finally get to hear the epic tale of how Tony and William first met, and they both learn a bit more about each other than they had realized. Enjoy!
QUESTIONS:
Please tell an untrue but epic story of how you first met. — Anonymous
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Alternative to traditional Baby It’s Cold Outside:
I really can’t stay
But, baby, it’s cold outside
I’ve got to go away
But, baby, it’s cold outside
This evening has been
Been hoping that you’d drop in
So very nice
I’ll hold your hands, they’re just like ice
My mother will start to worry
Beautiful, what’s your hurry?
My father will be pacing the floor
Listen to the fire place roar
So really I’d better scurry
Beautiful, please don’t hurry
But maybe just half a drink more
Put some records on while I pour
The neighbors might think
Baby, it’s bad out there
Say, what’s in this drink?
No cabs to be had out there
I just don’t know how
Your eyes are like starlight now
You’d think I couldn’t tell!
I’ll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I already said no no no, sir
Mind if I move in closer?
I can see how all along that you’ve lied
What’s the sense in hurting my pride?
Get out of my way
Baby, don’t hold out
Oh, but it’s cold outside
Now I’m gonna go
But, baby, it’s cold outside
The answer is “No”
But, baby, it’s cold outside
Try to stop me again
How lucky that you dropped in
And you’ll come to harm
Look out the window at that storm
My sister will be suspicious
Gosh your lips look delicious
My brother will soon be at your door
Waves upon a tropical shore
And I’m about to turn quite vicious
Ooh your lips are delicious
And pepper spray you down to the floor
Never such a blizzard before
Then throw you out of your home
But, baby, I’ll freeze out here
Oops you don’t have your coat.
It’s up to my knees out here
Soon you’ll understand
At least throw out some gloves for my hands
Yes soon you’ll see
How can you do this thing to me?
The cops will hold you ‘til tomorrow
Think of your life-long sorrow
And then the charges will be filed
If I got pneumonia and died
Police on their way
Get over that hold out
Oh, (baby) but it’s cold outside
Did you write that alternative William?
Great episode guys. Looking forward to part 2!
Um… yes? I can’t tell if I’m accepting credit or admitting blame… 🙂
Of course, most of it is the original lyrics. I really only changed a few lines.
I haven’t seen “Maleficent” so I can’t comment on how much it does or doesn’t express something that could be described as feminist.
However, I don’t think that what’s going on is so much just different or diverse ways of expressing feminism. It’s more like people who are in a group that seems to be oppositional to the mainstream often don’t see how their opposition is also rooted in and shaped by the culture they think they’re opposing. I see this a lot in younger women who equate feminism with freedom of sexual expression, and see any questioning of that expression as a form of repression or slut-shaming. As an example, a friend gave me a “third-wave” feminist book that had as one of it’s precepts “sex is good.” And I argued with her that first that didn’t make much sense–you can’t label an action with a value like that outside of any kind of specific context–and second was pretty problematic in a culture that’s so centered on marketing things through desire.
From what you guys were describing in the movie, Maleficent has bought into two cultural tropes: one that women’s value is in sexuality and so motivation for characters (more often men in my experience, but women too) comes from a violation of that value. And the second, that women’s strength lies in some essential female quality–maternity. On balance, that seems to perpetuate ideas which are anti-feminist in their effect, no matter what the intent of the creator (Angelina Jolie) was.