Episode 197 : Origin Story

We get into some pretty cool talk about feminism tonight, so that’s cool. And then, we finally get to hear the epic tale of how Tony and William first met, and they both learn a bit more about each other than they had realized. Enjoy!


Please tell an untrue but epic story of how you first met. — Anonymous

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4 Responses to Episode 197 : Origin Story

  1. William says:

    Alternative to traditional Baby It’s Cold Outside:

    I really can’t stay
    But, baby, it’s cold outside
    I’ve got to go away
    But, baby, it’s cold outside
    This evening has been
    Been hoping that you’d drop in
    So very nice
    I’ll hold your hands, they’re just like ice
    My mother will start to worry
    Beautiful, what’s your hurry?
    My father will be pacing the floor
    Listen to the fire place roar
    So really I’d better scurry
    Beautiful, please don’t hurry
    But maybe just half a drink more
    Put some records on while I pour

    The neighbors might think
    Baby, it’s bad out there
    Say, what’s in this drink?
    No cabs to be had out there
    I just don’t know how
    Your eyes are like starlight now
    You’d think I couldn’t tell!
    I’ll take your hat, your hair looks swell
    I already said no no no, sir
    Mind if I move in closer?
    I can see how all along that you’ve lied
    What’s the sense in hurting my pride?
    Get out of my way
    Baby, don’t hold out

    Oh, but it’s cold outside

    Now I’m gonna go
    But, baby, it’s cold outside
    The answer is “No”
    But, baby, it’s cold outside
    Try to stop me again
    How lucky that you dropped in
    And you’ll come to harm
    Look out the window at that storm
    My sister will be suspicious
    Gosh your lips look delicious
    My brother will soon be at your door
    Waves upon a tropical shore
    And I’m about to turn quite vicious
    Ooh your lips are delicious
    And pepper spray you down to the floor
    Never such a blizzard before

    Then throw you out of your home
    But, baby, I’ll freeze out here
    Oops you don’t have your coat.
    It’s up to my knees out here
    Soon you’ll understand
    At least throw out some gloves for my hands
    Yes soon you’ll see
    How can you do this thing to me?
    The cops will hold you ‘til tomorrow
    Think of your life-long sorrow
    And then the charges will be filed
    If I got pneumonia and died
    Police on their way
    Get over that hold out

    Oh, (baby) but it’s cold outside

  2. Beth says:

    Did you write that alternative William?

    Great episode guys. Looking forward to part 2!

    • William says:

      Um… yes? I can’t tell if I’m accepting credit or admitting blame… 🙂

      Of course, most of it is the original lyrics. I really only changed a few lines.

  3. jas says:

    I haven’t seen “Maleficent” so I can’t comment on how much it does or doesn’t express something that could be described as feminist.

    However, I don’t think that what’s going on is so much just different or diverse ways of expressing feminism. It’s more like people who are in a group that seems to be oppositional to the mainstream often don’t see how their opposition is also rooted in and shaped by the culture they think they’re opposing. I see this a lot in younger women who equate feminism with freedom of sexual expression, and see any questioning of that expression as a form of repression or slut-shaming. As an example, a friend gave me a “third-wave” feminist book that had as one of it’s precepts “sex is good.” And I argued with her that first that didn’t make much sense–you can’t label an action with a value like that outside of any kind of specific context–and second was pretty problematic in a culture that’s so centered on marketing things through desire.

    From what you guys were describing in the movie, Maleficent has bought into two cultural tropes: one that women’s value is in sexuality and so motivation for characters (more often men in my experience, but women too) comes from a violation of that value. And the second, that women’s strength lies in some essential female quality–maternity. On balance, that seems to perpetuate ideas which are anti-feminist in their effect, no matter what the intent of the creator (Angelina Jolie) was.

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