This week, we go deep inside local Goth culture for a look at the…. um… stuff, there. We also rehash a topic from last week. It’s not our fault! It’s yours!
We probably also discuss other things, but I don’t want to confuse it with next week’s episode.
Ooh! But we do have an important announcement, especially for local(ish) listeners!
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Awwww, I’ve very disappointed that Tony’s meat-eating rampage will not invove Tony running around town like Godzilla through Tokyo.
So who’s supposed to be the young vs the old podcast host?
Meh, I lack the essential goth/emo-ness required to properly enjoy the Crow. According to Wikipedia, Brandon Lee’s death was attributed to “Inexperienced crew members, pressured by time constraints, purchased live ammunition, removed the bullets, dumped the gunpowder, and then replaced the bullets back into the empty cartridges with the live primers still in place.”
Never anger the Producer. You wouldn’t like her when she’s angry…..
Dresden files: I’ve now read through book 4 and the more of them I’ve read, the more I’ve liked them. I wouldn’t say they’re the greatest of literature, but they are very enjoyable.
Some of us have been keeping up with the Nerdist podcast, upon your recommendation Tony, so some of us were already having to fake surprise at hearing your big news about them coming to town.
Wouldn’t a TMTH World Tour require you to actually display the TMTH for everyone to see? Would TMTH allow that or is it too shy?
Ah, I see. I just didn’t listen far enough to hear your thoughts on that sort of thing. And since you mention putting TMTH in a box, once again I’m picturing something like Pulp Fiction….
Since Kraft isn’t providing any funding for your sponsorship deal; maybe you should approach Heinz and see if they would (then you could promote fancy, expensive dijon ketchups!).
Privacy should be a basic, human right. Though the US govt obivously doesn’t agree with that point of view. William, your hypothetical situation sounds like crap. It’s less that it is the government’s responsibility to enforce somebody’s right to privacy and more that the government needs to avoid imping upon it. For example, the government should not have the right to wiretap your phone or read your email without a warrant (meaning they’d have to show some sort of just cause for doing so).
Tony: Is it really breaking & entering in when you use such weak locks? :p And yes, I do take notes as I listen.
Marcell is vaguely cute, but I don’t really see the appeal.
Iowa City/Cedar Rapids goth scene? What goth scene? Also William when you said “alienation in an urban setting” did you mean alienation or Alien Nation. I have to ask; because when you said it, the latter instantly popped into my head. Also all this talk about goths makes me think of MC Frontalot‘s Goth Girls song. If you’re not familiar with the Front, you should be!
Moon was excellent. Drive (the ’97 version Tony mentions) was crap. Two interesting and vaguely obscure movies that I’d recommend are: Black Sheep and FAQ Time Travel. In particular, FTT was excellent fun.
Tony: You don’t cook a turkey for vegetarians. You make a tofurkey.
Mark – Black Sheep is pure epic awesome! Some others I can recommend are Oldboy (my favorite revenge flick ever), Four Lions (Tony already mentioned this is an earlier podcast), and Fido (Billy Connolly as a pet zombie).
I know Veremond is referring to an, at least formerly, existent goth scene that was held at “David’s Place” before it closed. I don’t know how big it was, but he drove the extra hour away so it was better than here in the Quad Cities.
Speaking of, I’m about half goth I suppose. I enjoy some of the music, mostly the stuff that goths scoff at as being too commercial (Type O Negative, Bella Morte, Crux Shadows), and other related media. So yes, I am a HUGE fan of The Crow. It’s one of my top 5 favorites of all time. I even own the original graphic novel it was based on.
But like Kiya said about her husband and Highlander, I was a young teen in the early 90’s the first time I saw it. I know that gives me a fondness for it that I might not have if I saw it for the first time today.
I *totally* thought “Alien Nation” as well, when he said it! But he was on a roll, so I decided not to interrupt. 🙂
Gastrointerpublicist: One who provides good publicity for networks of gastroenterologists.
It’s been years since I’ve seen The Crow, but I really liked it when I saw it, in 1994 or so. I may have to watch it again on Netflix to see if it’s held up for me. One movie I saw only recently for the first time was Highlander, and while the husband loves it and thinks it’s awesome (he first saw it in the late 80’s/early 90’s), I wasn’t that into it. I can see how it was good for its time, and how those who have only seen The Crow recently would feel the same.
Regarding privacy, if I could have it my way, privacy should be a basic human right. I consider myself a private person, I like to be left alone, and do not want my address or personal information splashed across the internet or elsewhere.
I remember watching Come See the Paradise with Tony at his parents’ house in high school. I really liked that movie, and am glad he brought it up because I couldn’t remember the title of it until listening to the podcast tonight. That’s another one for the re-watch list. 🙂
Privacy in general. Well, I won’t paste my short essay from Episode 35, but again, an interesting discussion. In this day and age, where harvesting information is so transparent and ubiquitous, a Right to privacy would be hard to enforce. That’s not to say we don’t have some Rights, currently. I don’t know the name of the US equivalent is, but in the UK we have the Data Protection Act, which was updated fairly recently in lieu of advances in communication (i.e., the internet). Companies have to adhere to some sort of rules regarding privacy, too. Due to an FTC probe, Google is subject to 20 years of external audits after the whole Buzz fiasco.
Any Verizon users here? Did you know they just announced they’re going to be tracking your general phone use, location, browsing habits and so on for targeted advertising? There’s a whole industry going on behind the scenes, peddling this information. The more functionality devices offer, the more data there is to be mined. Even if you’re supremely cautious, I’m not sure it’s possible to avoid any of this any more. I think one of the problems, as I see it, is that people either aren’t aware how much information they’re providing by posting all manner of guff online (which is obviously married up with the swathe of automated information collected), or don’t appreciate the implications.
Anyway, not saying it’s a bad thing, just telling it like it is. Personally, I’ve subscribed to Google Latitude. I figure Verizon is constantly aware of where I am at any given moment from the triangulation of my cell signal, it can’t hurt to let Google have the same information. This is a byproduct of my family being able to view where I am, and my being able to see where they are. On occasion, I’ve actually found myself wishing more people I know use it, so I can see when someone is running late.
Anyway, a Right? Nice idea, but ultimately probably not worth implementing, given the way we dance around the others (exhibit A: witness the First Amendment being shat on constantly, at the moment).
tl;dr – I’ve never seen The Crow!
Haven’t finished listening to this episode yet but I heard you talking about LIVE AMMUNITION ON A FILM SET and, having worked for a time in wardrobe on films I felt the need to get up and get this out of my system right now.
NO.
Never never never are you supposed to have live rounds on a film set unless you’re filming an episode of Top Shot or Mythbusters or what-have-you… Or, you’re just stupid.
According to an investigation (and a documentary on tragic movie accidents like the Twilight Zone Movie crash) what actually happened during the filming of the Crow was this… during some of the passes through the scene where they film from various angles they were using what are known as “dummy rounds”. Dummy rounds look like bullets but are not actually bullets. In this particular case, however, they had been made out of slugs and casings from real bullets. What the prop person intended to do was take spent casings and slide slugs into them. So you have a casing where the percussion cap has been discharged, where the powder goes is just empty space (except for air) and the slug is fit into the top as it normally goes. So when the trigger is pulled nothing happens and you fix it with a flash and noise in post.
What happened unfortunately was that the person making the dummy rounds was disassembling live rounds for unused slugs to place in the dummy ones, and one or more unused casings got mixed in with the spent ones. So one or more of the dummy rounds had primed and live percussion caps. During the scene the trigger was pulled and set the percussion cap off, it exploded as is its job. As most of us know, the intention is for the little explosion to set off the powder, creating a larger explosion. However, as most of us know, even though there was no powder (or possibly just a bit of powder residue), for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The resulting pressure inside the casing from the cap exploding was enough to send the bullet on its way. Not at the same velocity as normal of course, but fast enough to do what bullets are made to do.
On the subject of going to a Live Nerdist Podcast, I’ve been to 3. One in LA at Nerdmelt, one at San Diego Comic Con with Matt and Karen from Doctor Who + Wil F’ing Wheaton and one from New York Comic Con with Jim Gaffigan which will never be heard as a podcast according to Chris because apparently the sound went all to hell.
It is always a good fun time, they usually start with some standup comedy by the hosts and I strongly urge you to wear a costume.
Favorite Obscure Movies:
– 6 String Samurai (Almost Fallout’esque post apocalyptic Kung Fu movie with shades of El Mariachi.)
– The Dinner Party (A 1994 movie about a bunch of twenty-somethings who live in a house together and accidentally hit on a weird way of trying to make the world a better place.)
– Gosford Park (Wasn’t obscure when it came out but is probably obscure now. Great murder mystery where the murder is the least interesting thing going on.)
* 6 String Samurai is an …. interesting movie. I tend to go back and forth on it (sometimes I like it, sometimes I don’t).
* Gosford Park was fun, period piece.